new member here so don't attack :d here is a couple questions i have been contemplating lately.. .
if jw isn't the right religion, then which one is?
or is it basically believe in god, the bible and you'll be fine?.
Welcome world,
You started with the wrong assumption: That there is a "right" religion. You have lots of research to do on religion, more specifically christianity and judaism. And yes, given your doubts, you obviously have not done enough research about JW's history, doctrines, false prophecies, its leaders. Long journey ahead.
There's a chance that there is a "right religion", but as you research, that chance gets smaller and smaller. Try discovering how small.
freedon of religion guarantees any individual the legal right to abandon any religion at any time for any reason.. if you are a citizen of a country which champions human rights, then your government doesn t care what religion you join, but they will uphold your freedom to join it, without interference, coercion or persecution.
your countries human rights legislation will conversely uphold your rights when it comes time to abandon any religion you so choose.
those (elders) who incite others interfere, coerce or persecute those who have left will be in transgression of the human rights statutes.. a person is only obligated to ecclesiastic law if he exposes himself to it or transgressed it while still a member of a religious community.. when your time comes to abandon the jw-wt cult, do it while still in good standing, be proactive - be decisive -put it in writing!..and do it before the hounders set sights on you.. write a card or letter with as much or as little explanation as you one day might wish to share with pharisees and lawyers.. take this card to a notary public to have your signature witnessed and have the writing overstamped in several places with the date.
This a case for the court of public opinion. As despicable as the shunning is, I don't think it's a good idea to get the judiciary involved. Just tell the world about the cruelty of some religions. That will put pressure that could bring change or demise.
town says no to jehovahs witnesses churchs brochure rack.
read full article here.... .
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In my town, Burbank CA, the city counsel denied permission to the Hispanic congregation, so they had to move to Hollywood, few miles away. The strange part is that my wife tells me that the Armenian congregation had their cart in display in Burbank. Is it the color of the skin? Doubt it. Something not quite consistent here.
http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
see last item:.
"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".
I think Johnamos makes a good case in favor of the Watchtower policies. The two witness rule is in both the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. My counter arguments would be:
the hell with the Bible's and christian religion's special privileges.
The moral values of the 21st century of most western democracies are more just and compassionate than those found in the Bible. I think the cowards are not people like Johamos, but the governments which cower and give too much latitude to religions to commit injustices that are unacceptable to our modern values.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.
(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).
thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.
Chaserious,
Isn't there a criminal element in action here. Obstruction of justice maybe, that seems to be intended to protect the monetary interest of an organization at the expense of the safety of children in the present and even the future. Is it possible that the very palpable refusal of the Watchtower to hand the "pedophiles documents" prompts a criminal investigation in the near future?
out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!
on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.
"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.
Crazy guy,
I will write this comment without looking at my notes from over a year ago, so expect that I may be off by a year or so. Year 568 BCE was the 37th year of Nabuchadnezzar II as registered in the Babylonian astronomical tablet 4956. This tablet contains about 35 astronomical observations about the moon, the 5 visible planets and some intervals between the sunset, moonset, moonrise and sunrise. This tablet is possibly our best document to confirm chronologies of the ancient Near East in the 6th century BCE including the destruction of Jerusalem, which according to the Bible happened in the 18th or 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar II (I may be slightly off). If you do the math, move back from 37th year of Neb II (568 BCE) in tablet 4956 to 18th or 19th year of Neb II (Bible date for the destruction of Jerusalem) and you arrive at 587/586 BCE.
As someone who had spent countless hours doing this research, I can assure you that there's no way that the accepted chronology is wrong and definitely not only is the Watchtower wrong, but they know it too, and therefore are lying.
take note governing body of jehovahs witnesses (tm).
even the pope realizes that it is important to get the secular authorities involved in child molestation cases.
wake up and smell the coffee!!!.
Talesin, Hortensia
This is a new pope, quite a different one from the previous one. Have you noticed? Give credit where and when credit is due. Just saying.
After learning all the B.S. surrounding religions I have become anti-religion, but that doesn't prevent me from noticing some good deeds or positive trends, often by religious individuals, even if they represent a larger body. This pope has been trying to move the religion in the right direction since he came into office. Can we give him a little credit.
Oh well, I guess you can always say that he has ulterior motives and his actions are not sincere.
JW thinking at its best. Everyone else is horrible!!!
southern california:.
monday pervy monday: ex-teacher's aide, butt slapping, tbn, mormons, jehovah witnesses.
by matt coker mon., nov. 24 2014 at 6:02 am 3 comments categories: court, crime-iny, gimme that oc religion, long beach, school daze .
Now I understand what the governing body members mean in their recent speeches about "the governing body loves children"
i just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
I see a bunch of people wasting their time and making me waste time. Oh well, it's entertaining too
take note governing body of jehovahs witnesses (tm).
even the pope realizes that it is important to get the secular authorities involved in child molestation cases.
wake up and smell the coffee!!!.
Talesin, Hortensia,
Wow! Damn if you do, damn if you don't.
I guess once people turn way from religion, religious leaders of any kind can never be good no matter what they do. I thought I was the most cynical person in the world, but JW's and some exJW's can easily beat me to first place.
